Ian Weinberg

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Mushroom soup

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Coaches and therapists of multiple descriptions are popping up all over the place like mushrooms in the dark! Life coaches, executive life coaches, coaching neuroscientists, energizers, shamans – the list is exhaustive. And all are making claims of enhancing your wellness, banishing all traces of your unfortunate nature-nurture beginnings and bringing you to a place of gratification and bliss for evermore. And to really add spice to this crazy mixed up soup is the fact that many are using terminology conveniently borrowed from the sciences. And so for example there are claims that your pituitary gland can be massaged (somewhere near your big toe, by the reflexologists) and that you have a brain in your heart and in your guts which you can fall back on if the one between your ears is damaged beyond repair. And then there are the vitamins and supplements which have been shown to have no beneficial effect if you are consuming an average Western diet. In fact, big studies have revealed a slightly higher incidence of lung cancer among those using mega-vitamin supplements. And those joint-enhancing supplements .... they’ve been shown to include shark cartilage which is toxic due to high levels of mercury salts!

Aggravating this mob rule is the fact that very few of the modalities have been validated. The basic requirement for any claimed modality of intervention is to be able to describe the modality in some rational way and then provide evidence of success in an experimental group compared to a control group over a period of five years. The best that we’re getting from this space is individual anecdotal descriptions. And so the soup darkens with misinformation, disinformation and sadly, some real fake news. Not that the medical fraternity are angels. We’re sitting with big pharma pushing drugs with doubtful significance and applications. In addition we have an increasing retraction rate of articles published in peer-reviewed journals because of questionable data. And finally, only 40% of articles published in reputable psychology journals were reproducible.

Which all raises the question of what is authentic? The conventional bio-medical model is too narrow and conveniently discredits anything lying outside of the ‘acceptable’ zone while the alternative/complementary coaches/therapist domain fluffs out into some undefined and undefinable ether zone. And so to contribute some clarity to this state of affairs, I offer a model which perhaps could lend itself to creating a working context, one that can be built on by others of all denominations, provided that contributors respect the requirements for validation of their methods - by providing case studies over time and applying a process of logical reasoning to explain the rationale of the modality and its effectiveness.

The best way to develop a comprehensive model is from the bottom, up. In this way it has firm legs to hold up the universe! At the bottom are the basic sciences and the bio-medical model – physics, chemistry, cells, tissues and organs together with systems that co-ordinate the structure and function of the whole organism. At the next level up, we introduce the concept of psychoneuro-immunology (PNI) – the study of the influences of mind states on immunity and indeed on organ function and metabolism. These influences feedback to the brain, which serves to further modulate the mind states.

Once this level is locked in place we can ascend and introduce the third tier of influence – the nonlocality energy space. All physical entities have an energy equivalent (E=MC²) which seem to exist in a dimension which is independent of time and space (Implicate order, singularity, nonlocality). Everything in this space is interconnected through the process of energy resonance (see analogy of 2 tuning forks, where one vibrating may cause the other to vibrate in sympathy if they generate similar frequencies). It has been documented further that human consciousness is able to convert the energy form, existing as energy potential (superposition), into physicality (base state) by merely engaging with it – co-creatorship, in other words.

And there you have it. If you wish to remain at the basic physical level with its biomedical model, that’s fine. What you see is what you get as per the five senses. At this level the concept of cause and effect prevails. At the next level up, causality includes brain-mind-consciousness which influences body wellness and performance but which feeds back to the brain-mind-consciousness. At the apex energetic level, we depart from cause and effect causality because in the energy dimension all physicality has representation – including our physical bodies. Here, interaction is based on resonance – the simultaneous occurrence and activation of entangled entities. This plays out in physicality for example, as a toxic mind state, resonating with a toxic body chemical configuration, resonating with a growing malignant tumor. There is no cause and effect but rather, resonating linked processes. And I hazard to extend this resonation beyond the body – the toxic mind state materializes a toxic external event which negatively affects you ... because all entities are unified in the energy space and their co-ordinated interaction in physicality reflects the energy resonance. Ultimately each level is incorporated into the higher one, with the energetic apex incorporating all lower tiers of function - degrees of influence thus increase with successively higher levels. The central core of this model is conscious awareness, functioning at each level.

So there it is. Something upon which to cogitate. Perhaps something even to build upon to create context and value and turn that soup into something more appetizing and appealing. 

                             

                                                    Copyright reserved - Ian Weinberg 2017

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Ken Boddie

4 years ago #34

#42
Ah ... but I always like to know I'm dealing with a properly qualified mechanic, be it brain, pain, vein or sprain who's done time under the bonnet getting his or her gloved hands up close and intimate with the bits that make our motors tick. What I find most worrying these days is how young the available Grocers of Preference appear and how they always scrutinise reference notes on a screen before making a decision. Makes me wonder if we're all looking at the same Farmer Sooty Cal's sponsored guidelines after all? 🧐

Ian Weinberg

4 years ago #33

#41
you know Ken, when the thing is really souped up very few look under the bonnet!

Ken Boddie

4 years ago #32

I guess what you're implying, Ian, is that Dr Google's supermarket tins of mushroom soup are likely to have a few toxic toadstools in them, but only in occasional batches, and not in every supermarket. So how do I know that my local GP (that's grocer of preference) can sell me soup that's safe to sup, and that it hasn't got any magic mushrooms in it, home grown by Farmer Sooty Cal, to keep me hooked on soup? Perhaps there's an argument that I should also be looking over some of Dr Google's soup contents and recipes before buying packets or tins at my local GP supermarket? Maybe that way I'll be less likely to be treated like a mushroom, ie kept in the dark and regularly fed heaps of sh*t from Farmer Sooty Cal? 🤗

Paul Walters

4 years ago #31

Ian Weinberg As always...soup for thought! On your recent travels here you might have come in contact with, ' Aura coaches' They will coach you and clean your aura for the princely sum of Rp 10 million.... sheesh, give them soup I say!

Randall Burns

6 years ago #30

Great post Ian Weinberg read this in conjunction with your "Dumbing down" post which I'm responding to now. https://www.bebee.com/producer/@ian-weinberg/dumbing-down

Ian Weinberg

6 years ago #29

Deb\ud83d\udc1d Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee You have both provided very valid comments in regard to all aspects of my article. And so I felt the need to respond. Indeed the regulation of therapists, their accreditation and permitted interventions apply to the lowest common denominator - to those who actually need to be regulated and the safe-guarding of the well being of the client. But regulation becomes redundant and falls away when the therapist functions at a high level of integrity, is authentic, is sensitive and empathic to the client's situation, is a value contributor and is committed to sustained wellness. This I truly believe applies to you both, from what I have gleaned in our interactions to date. And so yes, this is another reality that would need to be incorporated into my article, to complete the picture. Finally, just for interest sake, there is much to be gained from passive movement and massage as modalities, when viewed from a neuroscientific perspective. Collectively, these modalities increase blood supply, diminish spasm and inflammation and stimulate the secretion of oxytocin. This in turn increases the gratification and ‘feel good’ effect of increased dopamine; diminishes generalized inflammation; and calms the amygdala-based fear, anxiety, panic and anger. This complements associated cognitive intervention. Best wishes.

Ian Weinberg

6 years ago #28

#36
Thanks for the valuable contribution Deb\ud83d\udc1d Lange, Brand Ambassador @beBee

Cyndi wilkins

6 years ago #27

#29
"Ultimately what I’m saying is that there needs to be an understanding of the limitations of each interventionalist and thus co-operation within the context of a shared comprehensive model of consciousness." Agreed...Thank you for the clarification here Ian Weinberg...I would add that 'we the people' need to develop a better understanding of ourselves and the patterns of behavior that lead to the dysfunction of the mind/body in the first place...be a pro-active participant in your own life and educate yourself on the conditions that affect you (if you are able bodied/minded) so you have the ability to discern for yourself the best course of action...We are fortunate to be living in a world now where access to information is at our fingertips...Do a little digging... it may surprise you what comes bubbling to the surface. That is not to say that I would recommend going it alone if you are dealing with deep seated trauma, but many of our 'ailments' manifest at the physical level because we refuse to hold ourselves accountable for our actions. and no one wants to hear they can create their own cancer...Enough said on that matter. "No one should engage in the intervention of cognitive and/or emotional problems alone, unless they have had formal instruction in the known causes of these problems." That should go without saying...stay within your scope of practice...but it still bears repeating... No one is going seek the advice of a 'life coach' for a brain tumor...If they do, they need to have their head examined;-)

Sara Jacobovici

6 years ago #26

It is these 2 statements that you write, that says it all for me Ian Weinberg: "Ultimately we also need to understand the mechanism of the healing, whether it be bio-medical, PNI or something working through a nonlocality dimension, because this is how we elevate our understanding and awareness of our extended human physiology and thus implement the most appropriate combinations of treatment. This requires study of ALL prevailing treatments and remedies, increasing our understanding (free of pre-judgement) and then integration if valid, into a more wholistic working model of treatment."

Sara Jacobovici

6 years ago #25

It is these 2 statements that says it all for me Ian Weinberg: "Ultimately we also need to understand the mechanism of the healing, whether it be bio-medical, PNI or something working through a nonlocality dimension, because this is how we elevate our understanding and awareness of our extended human physiology and thus implement the most appropriate combinations of treatment. This requires study of ALL prevailing treatments and remedies, increasing our understanding (free of pre-judgement) and then integration if valid, into a more wholistic working model of treatment."

Sara Jacobovici

6 years ago #24

#10
It's been awhile Gerald Hecht. I haven't had the pleasure to read a comment of yours for quite some time. I loved every word of this one (must be the reference to Star Trek, William Shatner and the other Canadians).

Ian Weinberg

6 years ago #23

#26
Part 2: And so ultimately what I’m saying is that there needs to be an understanding of the limitations of each interventionalist and thus co-operation within the context of a shared comprehensive model of consciousness. I would go further by stating that no one should engage in the intervention of cognitive and/or emotional problems alone, unless they have had formal instruction in the known causes of these problems (and that also applies very much to the MD's and Ph,D's with special emphasis on prescribed drugs!). That is why I take issue with many coaches who have had minimal coaching instruction and who take it upon themselves to engage with these vital issues. The consequences can be disastrous, as I have personally witnessed on several occasions - bearing in mind that I have trained selected coaches, complementary/alternative therapists as well as MD's, in my PNI application, over the past 18 years. I welcome your response as well as responses from Sara Jacobovici

Ian Weinberg

6 years ago #22

#26
Part 1 - Herewith my response Cyndi wilkins : Indeed we all have our subjective realities which reflect our unique nature-nurture heritages and life narrative. And consequently we materialize manifestations thereof and resonate with appropriate elements along the life path. But when it comes to intervention, the intuition and subjectivity of the interventionalist may be insufficient. When dealing with emotional and/or cognitive issues the interventionalist needs to have knowledge and understanding of the following: 1. Nurture issues and their known influences and manifestations 2. Known organic neurological syndromes which can manifest as emotional/cognitive issues 3. Chronic somatic inflammatory conditions which can produce ‘sickness behavior’ – manifest as lethargy and depression (hopeless-helplessness). Continued in part 2 above.

Ian Weinberg

6 years ago #21

#26
Cyndi, everything that you're stating is relevant. And you personally are a great value contributor in the area of healing. But I'm not sure that I'm adequately communicating the issue to your satisfaction. So I'm going to ponder all that I've said as well as all that you've said, because I think it's a very important issue at this time. I'll be back with something to chew on!

Cyndi wilkins

6 years ago #20

"The understanding of the concept of human consciousness represent a broad spectrum of individuals, each unique in their subjectivity...The inflexibility of some individuals to respect, consider and evaluate the authentic views of others on the subject, impedes the evolution towards a collective understanding of the concept." Your words...My answer..."We create within the landscape of our lives that which is accordance with our beliefs...not the beliefs of others...Their experiences are unique to their own version of the world as they know it...Our individual experiences, (that would include these various ailments) are meant to serve as a guide through the evolutionary process of expanded awareness...and that means all of us." "This article is for the benefit of those seeking help for various ailments, we need to ensure that the remedies result in a higher degree of success than chance, that they're not harmful and that the motives and thus the integrity of the 'healer' is sound. Ultimately we also need to understand the mechanism of the healing." Agreed...if it were at all possible to ensure that for anyone...there are risks to everything...that is why they call it a 'practice'...be it bio-medicine, brain-mind-consciousness or whatever label we would apply to it. And just because there is an MD, Ph,.D following one's name does not ensure a higher degree of success...in fact, my experience has been a higher degree of harm with the ensuing side effects of many of the medications commonly used to control blood pressure...taken by millions without incident...but if you are that one and a million that cannot take such preparations...it is nice to have people in the alternative field to work with. We all know what sustained high blood pressure leads to. I get what you are saying here...however, there is a place in the world for all of it...'coaches and all;-)

Ian Weinberg

6 years ago #19

#24
Thanks very much for contributing those insights Praveen Raj Gullepalli

Ian Weinberg

6 years ago #18

#22
Valid points Cyndi wilkins and yes, the emotional-body connection is a very important pathway in both the cause of many ailments as well as in the threatment thereof. This is reflected in my lifelong drive to bring psychoneuro-immunology (PNI) into the mainstream of treatment modalities. We also have to recognize that the placebo effect (the belief factor) accounts for up to 40% of the effectiveness of any treatment - working through PNI pathways. But the point that I'm trying to make in this article is that for the benefit of those seeking help for various ailments, we need to ensure that the remedies result in a higher degree of success than chance, that they're not harmful and that the motives and thus the integrity of the 'healer' is sound. Ultimately we also need to understand the mechanism of the healing, whether it be bio-medical, PNI or something working through a nonlocality dimension, because this is how we elevate our understanding and awareness of our extended human physiology and thus implement the most appropriate combinations of treatment. This requires study of ALL prevailing treatments and remedies, increasing our understanding (free of pre-judgement) and then integration if valid, into a more wholistic working model of treatment.

Cyndi wilkins

6 years ago #17

Though folk practitioners from the lower strata of society may lack the credentials of the scholarly , many specialize in specific healing practices and are held in very high esteem. For example, it is not uncommon for scholarly Ashtavaidyas to seek the help of folk healers in pediatric care, poison therapy or diseases of the mind. Classical Ayurveda has been enriched over centuries through such interactions and exchanges with regional folk practices. Without the 'brain-mind-consciousness' of the processes that have set the dysfunction in motion, we just recycle ourselves...again and again...until such a time that we are ready, willing and able to take a closer look at what's in the well...That is no promise of a 'cure'...but it is certainly the way to peace of mind. Healing is practiced by people from all levels of society who live and work in intimate relation with their environment. They range from home remedies related to nutrition and treatment to experts in physical medical practices and others with intimate knowledge of medicinal plants. The rigid pattern of conventional science overlooks the complexities of the human emotional system as being in large part the underlying cause of disease...Instead it operates solely on an "evidence based" system of diagnostics, completely ignoring any intuitive sense they may have as irrelevant...That limited concept of one's thoughts and feelings having little or nothing to do with their health challenges just lays out the welcome mat for disease...This continuous cycle of treating the "symptoms" has created massive healthcare costs, making pharmaceutical companies rich by keeping us medicated and sick...If we consider the fact that our immune systems respond directly to our emotional state by manifesting physiological symptoms as a result of psychological stress, we begin to realize that if mindset can contribute to disease, surely then, it has the power to reverse it as well;-)

Ian Weinberg

6 years ago #16

#19
Very valid points Jerry Fletcher I would suggest that repeatability is enhanced when the issue is clearly specified, the protocols of intervention defined and psychometric evaluation is comprehensive and appropriate. Side variables encountered along the way can be evaluated in terms of their significance and incorporated if relevant. Ultimately, success is more likely with less complex syndromes. But I do acknowledge the challenges in a psychological/coaching milieu.

Jerry Fletcher

6 years ago #15

Ian, Seems you have niggled a nerve this time. One of the difficulties in your thesis is the lack of repeatability of a great deal of the psychological experiments. That has always been a problem. The best resolution I have been able to come to in that regard is: 1. The variability in the subjects is such that experimental requirements cannot be matched even if the same subjects are used. OR 2. The phenomena being examined is not the primary but rather a secondary effect that may be subject to other unknown conditions. Any thoughts on that?

Ian Weinberg

6 years ago #14

#17
Indeed, we can put mushrooms to good use in many other spaces ... why spoil the soup?

Lisa Gallagher

6 years ago #13

I'm fairly sure there are many well-informed, practical life coaches but with that said, there are many who prey on people that are truly in need of medical intervention, and that includes those of us with Mental illnesses. I prefer a medical approach that is data driven and backed by Scientific fact. Time is of essence for me as and so is my well being. I've always been a person who needs to see and read about fact based Science and that probably goes back to my medical background (which is far from yours). I guess to each their own. Some people offer great advice and it's well intended, others are only concerned with selling their personal brand. I can smell the difference... that smell would be a very woody mushroom soup. Again, let me state, I think there is a need for life coaches and other types of coaches, so I am not dissing them AT ALL. I have a lot of respect for many I've met.

Ian Weinberg

6 years ago #12

#13
I think you may have missed the point here. This article takes issue with interventionalists across a broad range who engage with aspects of emotional and physical pathology and who's modalities and methodologies have not been validated. As regards coach-bashing, this will prevail until the modality is regulated, has a recognized curriculum, screens who is qualified to practice and monitors standards of practice.

Ian Weinberg

6 years ago #11

#10
Absolutely with you on that Gerald Hecht I just feel that there's a profound message here ... somewhere. Rest easy, I'm on to it.
It seems you've touched many of us with this buzz. I hiccupped over, "We’re sitting with big pharma pushing drugs with doubtful significance and applications." I stopped short of saying that in my "killer Drugs" post. I wanted to focus on their vendors--doctors. But you've said it here and I am content. Your voice is far larger than mine. Thank you for this buzz. I enjoyed the mental rambling it provoke me to do.

Ian Weinberg

6 years ago #9

#8
Thanks Paul Walters Looking forward to your next missive from the Dark Continent.

Paul Walters

6 years ago #8

Ian Weinberg now that meaty tead is a lot to ponder . Thank you, great piece!!

Ali Anani

6 years ago #7

#6
I have just read your buzz again Ian Weinberg and noticed your background image. It looks like "soup foam". I discussed today in my buzz the "coffee Foam" as a metaphor for complexity and including the process and complexity of writing. Now- I think "Soup Foam" would extend the ideas and stretch them more than I imagined. Thank you for the inspiration.

Ian Weinberg

6 years ago #6

#5
Precisely Ali \ud83d\udc1d Anani, Brand Ambassador @beBee Thanks for the comment

Ali Anani

6 years ago #5

"In this way it has firm legs to hold up the universe! At the bottom are the basic sciences and the bio-medical model – physics, chemistry, cells, tissues and organs together with systems that co-ordinate the structure and function of the whole organism". This extract of your buzz Ian Weinberg is quite revealing. No wonder many organizations are standing up in the air as they are "feetless".

Ali Anani

6 years ago #4

"In this way it has firm legs to hold up the universe! At the bottom are the basic sciences and the bio-medical model – physics, chemistry, cells, tissues and organs together with systems that co-ordinate the structure and function of the whole organism". This extract of your buzz is qute revealing. No wonder many organizations are standing up in the air s they are "feetless".

Ian Weinberg

6 years ago #3

#2
Thanks Gert Scholtz

Gert Scholtz

6 years ago #2

Ian Weinberg "There is no cause and effect but rather, resonating linked processes." The essence of the soup, and the heart of the matter. Insightful and engrossing read - thank you Ian.

Pascal Derrien

6 years ago #1

Processed food and ready meals are not super tasty nor they are very nutritive 😀 Now either some think they are head chefs when they are only......re-heaters 😀👍

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